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    Quote Originally Posted by jonasty123dm View Post
    Do you need an antivirus when you only download apps from the Play Store?
    In my opinion (and I've opinioned about it in several threads ), no, you don't. The reason is that malware writers will simply check their malware against existing antivirus apps (which are available to them from Play, just as for everyone else), so 1) malware writers can then verify that no AV detects it before uploading to Play, or modify their malware app until it looks "clean", and 2) it's likely that there's scanning by Google before it gets allowed into Play.

    So what this means that there may very well be malware apps in Play Store, but your antivirus will not be able to detect it until too late: When the malware is recognized as malware the AV software get their update of course, but the malware will be removed from Play as well. The conclusion is that no AV can prevent you from downloading malware from Play.

    But malware on other, non-Play sites (which can only be installed if you turn off the 'no unknown sources' check in settings) can certainly linger for much longer. So that's where the AV tools have their role: Detect old malware apps from non-Play sites.

    Q: Can AV software protect me from malware downloaded from Play Store?
    A: Highly unlikely.
    Q: So how do I protect myself from malware on Play Store?
    A: Don't install brand new apps. Wait it out for a while and you should be OK. Read reviews too. And there are certain apps with a particular malware smell to them which should be avoided at all times. They often tend to promise showing "interesting" pictures. The few real malware reports I've read (not including the scare articles produced by AV application companies) have often been such apps. Not that there aren't other kinds.
    Q: Will installing an AV app do any harm?
    A: No. Or unlikely at least, if downloaded from Play. But it may slow down your device. Reports vary wildly from what I can tell.

    -Tor
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    jonasty123dm's thread on this subject merged here. We do try to keep things organised if we can & this subject does come up quite regularly. Thanks for understanding

    There are varied views on the subject, so I guess for anyone "the decision is yours" - both for whether to install and what to install (I use TrustGo currently & have used Lookout previously) but for some further background information and a good few links about the subject in a great deal of detail, I would recommend our Guide Thread on the subject, linked from my signature below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor View Post
    In my opinion (and I've opinioned about it in several threads ), no, you don't. The reason is that malware writers will simply check their malware against existing antivirus apps (which are available to them from Play, just as for everyone else), so 1) malware writers can then verify that no AV detects it before uploading to Play, or modify their malware app until it looks "clean", and 2) it's likely that there's scanning by Google before it gets allowed into Play.

    So what this means that there may very well be malware apps in Play Store, but your antivirus will not be able to detect it until too late: When the malware is recognized as malware the AV software get their update of course, but the malware will be removed from Play as well. The conclusion is that no AV can prevent you from downloading malware from Play.

    But malware on other, non-Play sites (which can only be installed if you turn off the 'no unknown sources' check in settings) can certainly linger for much longer. So that's where the AV tools have their role: Detect old malware apps from non-Play sites.

    Q: Can AV software protect me from malware downloaded from Play Store?
    A: Highly unlikely.
    Q: So how do I protect myself from malware on Play Store?
    A: Don't install brand new apps. Wait it out for a while and you should be OK. Read reviews too. And there are certain apps with a particular malware smell to them which should be avoided at all times. They often tend to promise showing "interesting" pictures. The few real malware reports I've read (not including the scare articles produced by AV application companies) have often been such apps. Not that there aren't other kinds.
    Q: Will installing an AV app do any harm?
    A: No. Or unlikely at least, if downloaded from Play. But it may slow down your device. Reports vary wildly from what I can tell.

    -Tor

    Thank you for making this clear. My brother started downloading random apps from the Store and he didn't read the permissions: he kept installing games that needed some unnecessary permissions. As a result I got some kind of spyware: a search icon appeared on my home screen. That's why I am a bit dubious about using an AV or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonasty123dm View Post
    Thank you for making this clear. My brother started downloading random apps from the Store and he didn't read the permissions: he kept installing games that needed some unnecessary permissions. As a result I got some kind of spyware: a search icon appeared on my home screen. That's why I am a bit dubious about using an AV or not.
    That's exactly the point! You can run two or three AVs at the same time, and it's not going to make a difference if you (the user) doesn't pay attention, doesn't read the permissions etc.
    @Tor: I agree with you 100% and your posts in this thread are the most illuminating on this subject I have read anywhere! Thank you!

    And this comes from someone who prided himself on not catching any malware, virus, trojans on his Windows systems (where AV/firewall is essential I think) for many many years, and who, distracted by playing with his new phone, downloaded said Moto root tool from tucows.com, ignored and OVERRODE multiple warnings from AV AND firewall and ended up spending about two hours cleaning out that cr**!! Serves me right! LOL

    IMHO if it makes you feel better running an AV on Android - go right ahead. But that's about all it's going to do - make you FEEL better.
    And hopefully you won't let down your guard because of it.....

    Edit: Just a tiny correction. The program piggy-backed with malware I downloaded from tucows.com was RSD lite, not the Moto root tool. They're calling themselves TWO cows for a reason, I guess. You think you're getting one, but....
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    If only Lavasoft made an Android version of Ad-Aware. That is the #1 malware scanner I use on my PC. I get awesome detection rates, compared to Malwarebytes, Kaspersky, Norton, etc. It finds lotsa Trojans, and I am not talking the ones from USC!! I bet if I could run a scan of my tablet while connected to my PC, by using the Windows context menu, I would see some detections.

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    Thank you for information. I haven't used AV before

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    Hey just thought I would leave this here to show a different angle. The article has links to others in the first paragraph. http://www.androidcentral.com/androi...-adrian-ludwig

    The truth is that most malware on Android requires the installation of am all that is not from the google play store or the installation of a foreign app store. If a malware infused app got onto the play store google has the tools to remove it on your device before anything could happen.
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