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    Does the T100 have a traditional BIOS screen?

    If so, anyone access it and look for tweaks and optimizations?

    How does one access it?

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    I don't believe it does, came across this in my reading.

    "On these new Windows 8 systems, the traditional BIOS is replaced with UEFI and thus has new rules of how to access it... The startup delay is basically too short to allow a F2 at boot. So instead you have to boot to the OS and then choose to reboot to the "UEFI Firmware Settings" from the Advance Startup options... Just follow the instructions from this link..."

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    http://www.transformerforums.com/for...questions.html

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    Yes, it does have a traditional BIOS. Just hit F2 on boot.

    Just like most laptops, there is pretty much nothing to tweak. IIRC its basically device boot order, BIOS password, BIOS update and a couple of other very minor things that can be changed.
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    Nice, didn't read the last post of that tread to see that it does have Bios that is accessed via F2. Either way, some additional good information in that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azazel1024 View Post
    Yes, it does have a traditional BIOS. Just hit F2 on boot.

    Just like most laptops, there is pretty much nothing to tweak. IIRC its basically device boot order, BIOS password, BIOS update and a couple of other very minor things that can be changed.
    No, dapm confused the issue with that first sentence in that last post but the T100 does not have a traditional BIOS... as dapm added...

    Quote Originally Posted by dapm
    ...The real issue is that it is not “BIOS”, but “UEFI”, and it’s not “MBR” but “GPT”. (Google those if needed). So utilities must be GPT/UEFI capable, including bootable thumb drive makers, and that’s relatively rare, it seems.
    The T100 specifically uses a 32bit UEFI and anything you want to boot off a USB or SD card has to be configured to work with that in order to work!

    It would be preferable if it was a 64bit UEFI, the 3rd part boot loaders naturally work with the 64bit version but the 32bit makes it a bit problematic... at least to get things done automatically without special configurations.

    Anyway, you can access many of the same features as you would from a traditional BIOS screen but it's the UEFI menu you'll be working with instead!

    The F2 feature also rarely works because the timing delay to allow you time to press any buttons before the OS boots is usually too short. Thus why the usual advice is to get access to it through the OS as W8 allows you to choose to reboot into the UEFI Firmware Menu...
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    The UEFI menu/firmware does add some functionality under the hood but it is really like the old DOS based BIOS with a prettier face.

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    Okay, yes. I was taking the "traditional BIOS" to mean is there something you can access upon boot to change boot options, hardware configuration, etc in a pre-boot environment. The answer to that question, which may or may not have been asked, would be yes, yes it does. It is UEFI though, not actually BIOS. However, it is accessible through F2 upon boot and it has a layout and apperance as a "traditional" BIOS as it uses a text UEFI interface, not the increasingly more common graphical UEFI interfaces computers are getting.

    It isn't difficult to access. As soon as you see the laptop light turn on when holding down the power button just spam the F2 key a couple of times a second and it'll pretty much always come up. If you wait a couple of seconds till you see the ASUS twirly dot loading screen, you've waited too long.

    Same thing for system repair/recovery/restore menu. Gotta start spamming F9 as soon as you see that camera light turn on for a second.

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    The method I use is to hold down the volume down button while switching on. You then get 2 options to continue to boot into windows or setup.
    Then if you haven't attached the keypad use the volume buttons to select "enter setup" and windows switch button (below volume buttons) as the enter key.
    Works every time for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeshor View Post
    The UEFI menu/firmware does add some functionality under the hood but it is really like the old DOS based BIOS with a prettier face.
    I understand that they may look alike but BIOS and UEFI are only really alike in that they are both types of Firmware that run the system but how they work is not the same... It's like comparing, say, a traditional gas engine with a all electric... they both do the same job but how they get that job done is not done in a identical way and when you need something to work with it then those differences become important...

    Like getting something to boot off a USB or SD card, you have to be aware of the differences and account for them to get things to work with it... Thus the importance of making sure people don't confuse the traditional BIOS with UEFI as then they are more likely to run into situations where traditional ways of doing things simply won't work...

    In more advance systems, like desktops, you can get the option for supporting a traditional BIOS and UEFI... Often simply called Legacy BIOS Compatibility Mode, this would allow you to treat the system as you would traditionally but these mobile devices only have basic configuration options and the T100 specifically is a bit more limited with a 32bit instead of 64bit UEFI, which further complicates what you have to account for in order to get something to boot.

    Those seeking, for example, to boot their own favorite Linux distro can only do so if they account for the UEFI... The Linux Boot Loader that can work with UEFI's Secure Boot will only work with 64bit UEFI, this is because on the 64bit boot loader will auto recognize and work with UEFI and also why they only acquired a 64bit key to work with Secure Boot for that boot loader.

    The T100 thus makes it very hard for anyone wishing to run a Linux distro because of the 32bit UEFI, which means a custom boot setup is required that's more complicated than the 64bit setup would have been and harder to get to work 100%...

    So, it's important to make the distinction clear as otherwise people would think they can just do all the same things they could have with a traditional PC...




    Quote Originally Posted by azazel1024 View Post
    Same thing for system repair/recovery/restore menu. Gotta start spamming F9 as soon as you see that camera light turn on for a second.
    Spamming the key is nothing new for Asus devices, such advice was very common for Eee PC's and getting the restore to work with the F9 key... The F2 to get into the FW though is hard enough that it's usually not something I would advise unless someone was having problems getting the system to boot the OS. Boot up time is fast enough normally and it's simple enough to just choose to reboot into the UEFI Firmware than hope to get to it by wearing out the F2 key...

    Mind, missing the timing means the OS boots and you'd either have to force a reboot or just do the regularly recommended method anyway...


    Quote Originally Posted by Kc2k View Post
    The method I use is to hold down the volume down button while switching on. You then get 2 options to continue to boot into windows or setup.
    Then if you haven't attached the keypad use the volume buttons to select "enter setup" and windows switch button (below volume buttons) as the enter key.
    Works every time for me.
    Should definitely be more reliable than the smashing F2 key method anyway...

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    Using F2/F9 is only working on mine if I disable Windows Boot Manager in the UEFI Settings. I'm at 2.14 BIOS version.

 

 

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