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    reinstall using WIM method... anyone tried?

    anyone tried to reinstall windows using the WIM method, to save precious space on internal eMMc?
    here the details... What is Windows Image Boot (WIMBoot)?
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    Unlikely since it was just revealed in the last handful of hours (24 at most) about the new install method.

    Seems like its really only worth while if you have a very, very small install space (16GB). It'll cut it down more than just a clean install of 8.1 update 1 will, by several GBs...but 8.1 update 1 would already cut that down quite a bit over just 8.1.

    You'll be running at least a small performance penalty by running through a WIMBoot install, as it is a compressed install. Lightly compressed it may be, but it is still going to result in some overhead both processing and battery life. It'll also possibly cause more bloat than would be normal with things like updates and changes to Windows. Now the starting size will be a lot smaller and probably taking in to account the large starting size of a regular install, a WIMBoot install will be smaller, even after months of updates and such forth, but the size delta between the two methods will likely shrink a fair amount over time.

    I am a bit more interested in something like a WIMBoot install on an 8GB dedicated recovery partition like the 32GB version has, and then the 32GB being compeltely open for the user (and using the remainder of the 8GB for updates and such forth). That would be kind of interesting.

    However, sounds complicated and still that performance and battery life reduction.

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    windows 8.1 update 1 makes windows lighter
    In my experience, windows 8.1 update 1 iso freshly installed "the regular" way,
    wasn't more than maybe a few hundred megabytes lighter than windows 8.1 without update 1 fresh iso.

    Windows 8.1 update 1 iso "fresh install" is 2gb lighter though than factory install of transformer + all updates (excl. update 1)




    Oh man, WIM compresses all windows files?
    That's extreme.... The most i'll compress is the WinSXS folder which according to "people",
    doesn't lead to performance loss. I'm not sure about it but i haven't noticed any slowdown because of it.

    Compression of WinSXS folder only becomes necessary after installing updates i think,
    so it doesnt save much space if u do it right after a fresh install.
    Last edited by beginning; 04-12-2014 at 02:45 AM.

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    Why does everyone assume that compression will low things down?
    I mean, it can, but it depends entirely on the CPU performance vs storage performance in a given device.

    SSDs have very fast random-access reads, but not necessarily so stellar sequential-access reads.
    The quadcore CPU in our T100, on the other hand, is such that I suspect it'd find it trivial to decompress lightly compressed data.
    So you may gain access speed if the balance is in the CPU's favor.

    It's similar with battery concerns, surely the CPU consumes battery, but so does reading from the SSD.

    It would be interesting to actually have a comparison of resources spent.

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    I managed to get Wimboot working on my T100TA today. I'm happy with the space savings. This screenshot is of the initial install with Office and Chrome installed.

    Wimboot free space and partitioning

    The Wim images took about 3gb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyxent View Post
    I managed to get Wimboot working on my T100TA today. I'm happy with the space savings. This screenshot is of the initial install with Office and Chrome installed.

    Wimboot free space and partitioning

    The Wim images took about 3gb.
    great! how about performances?

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    Hi,

    Can you describe the procedure ?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by azazel1024 View Post
    still that performance and battery life reduction.
    Supposition at best. WIM files, depending on the options set when you build the image, can actually be -faster- than uncomppressed file reads, due to how the file format works.

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    This is the my T100, iso Windows 8.1 with update 1 (MSDN), just a clean install.

    Office installed, hibernation OFF and Windows restoir point OFF

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    One thing I'm worried about, though, is indeed Windows Updates.
    With a "normal" install, those can take up a lot of space, but you can run commands to reclaim that space by removing older versions of files (and now, that's an option in Disk Cleanup, so it's very easy to do).
    But with WIM, won't there be a risk of updates eventually taking up more space than if you actually installed Windows normally? Is there, or will there be, a way to incorportate installed updates into a new WIM to replace the old one with?

 

 
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