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    Web development IDE

    Can anybody recommend any good IDE's for the transformer? I've tried a few and they seem mostly oriented towards phones. There's a ton of space on the tablet especially with a keyboard attached, and the CPU is certainly powerful enough to do some context sensitive functions.

    My netbook is an MSI u230. Arguably the fastest netbook on the planet (A dualcore Athlon XP). Can run a webserver, photoshop, or pretty much anything. However, batterylife sucks (It's a desktop CPU and chipset crammed into a netbook). Android isn't as powerful, but web development applications are basically just glorified text editors (ex:autocomplete = spellcheck), so it may actually be a good alternative for when i want to work while away from a power socked for extended periods. I've been to web development seminars and the netbook was dead halfway through.

    I've tried a few apps so far, but they seem to be limited as if they're limiting themselves only to phones. Any suggestion would be welcome.


    HTML development

    Web Master Lite
    + Has autocomplete. The commands show up on the lower right as you type. Would be nice if you could move up and down the list with the arrow keys like in eclipse.
    + Can preview in the full version.

    Android Web Editor
    + Has preview in the lite version
    + Can access files directly from your ftp server
    - Does not have auto indent. If you're using embedded lines (i.e. functions, tags, or pretty much anywhere), you'll need manually hit the spacebar to make them line up each time you hit enter.



    Flash development

    IDEas
    + Works very similar to eclipse. You start typing and it shows a list of possible commands on the right. Pressing enter will automatically use the item at the top of the list. *VERY USEFUL!*
    + Great for composing AS class modules while on the road that you can sync back to your main PC later.
    + It can compile. It sends the script to an off site server, which sends back a compiled SWF that the app then runs.
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    I have no idea about the apps, since I knew from the beginning that the TF is not ready for this. But I do know that a dual-core Athlon XP laptop is not anywhere near the laptops, not even the semi-good ones.
    Most laptops nowadays have an Intel i3 at least, not to mention some having the Quad-core i7, plus a lot of RAM. When it comes to photoshop, I reckon that the work load is more on Graphics card than on the CPU.

    Anyway, putting the OFF-TOPIC aside, I stumbled upon this WebMaster's HTML Editor Lite.
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    It's a netbook with an L335 CPU. Which is a dual core Athlon XP. AMD didn't have a counter for the ATOM at the time, so all they did was take one of their older CPU's, dual it, called it the Congo and stuck it in a netbook. The nVidia ION has the more powerful GPU so it was better at gaming, but it got wiped on everything else. Unfortunately, the new AMD netbooks which have "proper" CPU's are actually slower than the originals. The new E-350 is about 10% slower than the older L335. The new Intel ATOM's are slower than the E-350 for productivity tasks.

    The Transformer certainly doesn't hold a candle to my netbook. The thing runs several webservers (SQL, IIS, FTP, etc.) and development tools (Photoshop, Flash tools, Eclipse, etc.) at the same time. But for the most part, all you need is a text editor (I literally use a text editor to make the PHP and ASP backends).

    The whole netbook issue made me question how much CPU we actually need. I have an I5-750 Quad Core that i don't hesitate to turn to for anything that needs more CPU power. So far i've turned it on usually when i'm gaming (ATI 5850). Everything else is being done on the netbook now (Of course, the netbook is attached to a 22"monitor and KB/M). I move to it when it's crunch time and i'm doing some really heavy multi monitor multitasking, but for the most part, 99% of my working hours is spent on the netbook (Yep, 1 day every three months).

    If the netbook which is supposed to be the weakest possible PC, can still handle everything my main rig can. I'd like to know what i can do with the transformer.

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    I wasn't saying that your netbook is the weakest possible PC, no not at all, but it definetely doesn't rank near the real monsters on the market, not even the tiniest of them. I'm no geek, but I do know that i7 pretty much stomps over any dual-core processor, and since I only knew the CPU of your netbook it was the only thing to base my argument on.

    Bottom line:
    Your precious little netbook can't compete with the badass monsters in the depths, but if it works for you, good. Also, the transformer is no match for any dual-core PC when it comes to programming, due to software availability.

    BTW: How long have you been a webmaster? I assume your pretty talented, am I right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajile View Post
    Flash development

    IDEas
    + Works very similar to eclipse. You start typing and it shows a list of possible commands on the right. Pressing enter will automatically use the item at the top of the list. *VERY USEFUL!*
    + Great for composing AS class modules while on the road that you can sync back to your main PC later.
    + It can compile. It sends the script to an off site server, which sends back a compiled SWF that the app then runs.

    I can't find the IDEas IDE for Flash development you mentioned in the market. Can you post a link to the developer's website, please?

    I want to do a multiplatform project (PC, Mac, Android, iOS) and looks the best way is Flash/Air (I'm considering HTML5, but the multimedia capabilities get short compared with Flash).
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    doublepost
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    Quote Originally Posted by twentytwo View Post
    I can't find the IDEas IDE for Flash development you mentioned in the market. Can you post a link to the developer's website, please?

    I want to do a multiplatform project (PC, Mac, Android, iOS) and looks the best way is Flash/Air (I'm considering HTML5, but the multimedia capabilities get short compared with Flash).
    https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result

    It's a very primitive tool, but great for composing AS on the go. Hopefully they'll make something like FlashDev and let you install a compiler on your PC that you can network to.

    When i started working as a programmer. The first several years i spent writing on a grid notebook while in traffic. I literally have HR, inventory, and database management applications written down in pencil. Considering where i came from, a Quad I7 is beyond overkill for a programmer.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D View Post
    I wasn't saying that your netbook is the weakest possible PC, no not at all, but it definetely doesn't rank near the real monsters on the market, not even the tiniest of them. I'm no geek, but I do know that i7 pretty much stomps over any dual-core processor, and since I only knew the CPU of your netbook it was the only thing to base my argument on.

    Bottom line:
    Your precious little netbook can't compete with the badass monsters in the depths, but if it works for you, good. Also, the transformer is no match for any dual-core PC when it comes to programming, due to software availability.

    BTW: How long have you been a webmaster? I assume your pretty talented, am I right?
    I've never been a fan of laptops. A 100,000 PHP laptop can easily get trumped by a 40,000 php rig. When i first got the netbook, reviews on this class wasn't exactly favorable. It was originally intended to be just as a PC accessory that i can carry around (i wanted to be able to do some coding while stuck in two hour traffic). But then i started porting over more of my tools just to see what happens, until eventually, i just ported everything.

    I'm more of a flash developer. I can't say i'm a master, but i've been doing this for a while. I also know HTML, but the jobs that get sent to me are either multimedia or interactive sites. I've made HTML5 sites for iOS, but even between iOS devices, i had to add codepaths for specific models to keep the site from breaking. On the PC, i just had to make one site and it worked in every browser.
    Last edited by Hajile; 10-19-2011 at 10:04 PM.

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    Could you use a color coded editor like VIM? It is just an editor and not slick like Eclipse but it does have proper color coding schemes for nearly any code base. I use it for C++ Dev all the time. There is a version for Android available as well!
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    I did some digging and I think I may have a solution that fits your needs; Linux.

    Yes, ubuntu on the transformer. This way you can have a full-feature Web Development IDE on your TF.
    On how to actually doing that, you are on your own and google will help.
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